Ticket 30549 - slow printing

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Ticket 30549
Subject: slow printing Ticket 30549 CCs:
Author: Ulrich Guenther
Date: 2003-07-17 10:43
Activity: 2003-07-23 04:57
List: CrossOver Linux Support
Details:
Status: leftLevel 3 Closed
Assignment:
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 Huw Davies
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Ticket 30549 Dependencies:
Bugs: none WineHQ Bugzilla: none Tickets: none
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Ulrich Guenther


Type: Parent Ticket
Date: 2003-07-17 10:43  
Is there any solution now agains slow printing from Word2000. It has been 
memtioned already that postcript files a re huge.

 Ulrich

 

Huw Davies


Staff Member

Type: Staff Followup
Date: 2003-07-18 05:33  
On, Thu 2003-07-17 at 10:43, Ulrich Guenther wrote:
> Is there any solution now agains slow printing from Word2000. It has
> been 
> memtioned already that postcript files a re huge.

Does even a single page document containing only a few fonts generate a large PostScript file?

Huw.


 

Ulrich Guenther


Type: Client Followup
Date: 2003-07-18 11:01  
On Friday 18 July 2003 12:33, you wrote:
> On, Thu 2003-07-17 at 10:43, Ulrich Guenther wrote:
> > Is there any solution now agains slow printing from Word2000. It has
> > been
> > memtioned already that postcript files a re huge.
>
> Does even a single page document containing only a few fonts generate a
> large PostScript file?
>
> Huw.
>
>
>
> --
> Ticket 30549
> http://support.codeweavers.com/viewticket.php?ticket_id=30549


not excessively large but already too large. a.doc & b.prn with wine 
postscript driver

examples are attached.

this gets worse if I don't use the standard printer driver! (b.prn)
in this file it is cleary the font matrix that gets huge.

Ulrich

 

Attachments:
 a.doc
 a.prn
 b.prn

Ulrich Guenther


Type: Client Followup
Date: 2003-07-18 11:02  
On Friday 18 July 2003 12:33, you wrote:
> On, Thu 2003-07-17 at 10:43, Ulrich Guenther wrote:
> > Is there any solution now agains slow printing from Word2000. It has
> > been
> > memtioned already that postcript files a re huge.
>
> Does even a single page document containing only a few fonts generate a
> large PostScript file?
>
> Huw.
>
>
>
> --
> Ticket 30549
> http://support.codeweavers.com/viewticket.php?ticket_id=30549

Please let me add that these large print files are small in word2000 on 
windows.

ulrich

 

Huw Davies


Staff Member

Type: Staff Followup
Date: 2003-07-22 08:26  
On, Fri 2003-07-18 at 11:02, Ulrich Guenther wrote:
> On Friday 18 July 2003 12:33, you wrote:
> > On, Thu 2003-07-17 at 10:43, Ulrich Guenther wrote:
> > > Is there any solution now agains slow printing from Word2000.
> It has
> > > been
> > > memtioned already that postcript files a re huge.
> >
> > Does even a single page document containing only a few fonts
> generate a
> > large PostScript file?
> >
> > Huw.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Ticket 30549
> > http://support.codeweavers.com/viewticket.php?ticket_id=30549
> 
> Please let me add that these large print files are small in word2000 on 
> windows.
>

With word2000 on windows it's probably not downloading the font but using a font subsitute.  If you turn this off in the windows printer driver options (or use a font other than the standard times, arial, courier etc) then the windows output will be bigger, probably not as big as CrossOver's though.

I'll see if I can come up with something.

Huw.


 

Ulrich Guenther


Type: Client Followup
Date: 2003-07-22 08:36  
Thank you for your response.

On Tuesday 22 July 2003 15:26, you wrote:
> With word2000 on windows it's probably not downloading the font but using a
> font subsitute.  If you turn this off in the windows printer driver options

where do I turn this off?
Why is it so different for different printer drivers?

> (or use a font other than the standard times, arial, courier etc) then the
> windows output will be bigger, probably not as big as CrossOver's though.

Is this problem gone under word XP?

Do you expect to see a different story under word2k/windows vs. word2k/wine ?

Ulrich

 

Huw Davies


Staff Member

Type: Staff Followup
Date: 2003-07-22 08:54  
On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 08:36:44AM -0500, Ulrich Guenther wrote:
> Thank you for your response.
> 
> On Tuesday 22 July 2003 15:26, you wrote:
> > With word2000 on windows it's probably not downloading the font but using a
> > font subsitute.  If you turn this off in the windows printer driver options
> 
> where do I turn this off?

It depends on which windows version and printer driver you're using
Try going to Control Panel, Printers, right click on the printer and
selct properties, then look in the advanced or driver configuration
tab from font subsitutes.

> Why is it so different for different printer drivers?

Different printer drivers do it differently.

> > (or use a font other than the standard times, arial, courier etc) then the
> > windows output will be bigger, probably not as big as CrossOver's though.
> 
> Is this problem gone under word XP?

Nope, it's a OS level thing.

> Do you expect to see a different story under word2k/windows
> vs. word2k/wine

That's what we're comparing.  With all font subsitutes turned off then
for 1 page docs the size may be similar.  However for > 1 page windows
will be smaller, because it doesn't always download the fonts for
every page like wine does.  The disadvantage is that you can't jump to
a random page in 'gv' for example like you can with the wine generated
PostScript.

Huw.
-- 
Huw Davies
huw@codeweavers.com

 

Ulrich Guenther


Type: Client Followup
Date: 2003-07-23 04:40  
On Tuesday 22 July 2003 15:54, you wrote:
> > Do you expect to see a different story under word2k/windows
> > vs. word2k/wine
>
> That's what we're comparing.  With all font subsitutes turned off then
> for 1 page docs the size may be similar.  However for > 1 page windows
> will be smaller, because it doesn't always download the fonts for
> every page like wine does.  The disadvantage is that you can't jump to
> a random page in 'gv' for example like you can with the wine generated
> PostScript.

Are there any switches in wine to change font substitution?

BTW: ps2pdf creates reasonably small pdf from these huge ps-files.

Ulrich


 

Huw Davies


Staff Member

Type: Staff Followup
Date: 2003-07-23 04:57  
On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 04:40:32AM -0500, Ulrich Guenther wrote:
> On Tuesday 22 July 2003 15:54, you wrote:
> > > Do you expect to see a different story under word2k/windows
> > > vs. word2k/wine
> >
> > That's what we're comparing.  With all font subsitutes turned off then
> > for 1 page docs the size may be similar.  However for > 1 page windows
> > will be smaller, because it doesn't always download the fonts for
> > every page like wine does.  The disadvantage is that you can't jump to
> > a random page in 'gv' for example like you can with the wine generated
> > PostScript.
> 
> Are there any switches in wine to change font substitution?

Not yet.

> BTW: ps2pdf creates reasonably small pdf from these huge ps-files.

That's interesting.  I suspect that's a combination of compression and
that the glyphs are missing their hinting information in the pdf
files.

Huw.
-- 
Huw Davies
huw@codeweavers.com