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Game lagging, when all CPU threads drop to low usage
John Kehr
Posted 2015-09-06 03:16
OS: Linux Mint 17.1 Cinnamon 64-bit
NVIDIA Driver: nvidia-346  binary driver - version 346.82
Crossover 14.1.6

WoW had been working fine, but after a system update, it is getting very laggy.  I have had the system monitor up, and noticed that the CPU usage drops off when the game lags.  Prior to the updates, there tended to be 1 CPU at 100% all the time, but the other were low.  Now they are all moderate usage, but all drop off at the same time.

Any thoughts?
Silviu Cojocaru
Silviu Cojocaru Omniscient Mystical Exalted Nigh-invincible Supreme Raging Atomic Dragon Turbo Chief Senior Advocate, Rank 8
Posted 2015-09-06 03:24
Do you recall what was updated?
John Kehr
Posted 2015-09-06 04:05
The full list of things in Linux Mint system update.  It was a very long list.
John Kehr
Posted 2015-09-06 04:24
I can confirm that this is affecting other Crossover games as well, so it isn't just WoW.
Silviu Cojocaru
Silviu Cojocaru Omniscient Mystical Exalted Nigh-invincible Supreme Raging Atomic Dragon Turbo Chief Senior Advocate, Rank 8
Posted 2015-09-06 04:29
Do you know what kernel version you're running?

I'm sorry but "a big list of changes" is not something anybody can use to pinpoint a problem. Does not help that Linux Mint plays a weird game with system updates. They hold some back while they let others pass. One of the reasons I don't use Linux Mint.
John Kehr
Posted 2015-09-06 04:34
Kernal: 3.13.0-37-generic

I used to use Ubuntu, but it broke everything on a regular basis.  This is the first time I have had a problem with Mint, and even now it less broken than Ubuntu regularly did.  I do know that I got a new Nvidia driver in the update.  Using their driver manager, I went from 340.76, to 346.82.  I have rolled back the driver, but the issue persisted.

Silviu Cojocaru
Silviu Cojocaru Omniscient Mystical Exalted Nigh-invincible Supreme Raging Atomic Dragon Turbo Chief Senior Advocate, Rank 8
Posted 2015-09-06 04:43
What does /opt/cxoffice/bin/cxdiag output?
John Kehr
Posted 2015-09-06 04:47
[MissingLibTiff]
"Level"="Suggest"
"Title"="Missing 32bit libtiff.so.4 library"
"Description"="This is needed by some applications that need to manipulate TIFF images in their user interface."

[Properties]
"display.depth"="24"

[Properties]
"opengl.vendor"="NVIDIA Corporation"

[Properties]
"opengl.version"="4.5.0 NVIDIA 346.82"

[Properties]
"opengl.renderer"="GeForce GTX 760/PCIe/SSE2"
Silviu Cojocaru
Silviu Cojocaru Omniscient Mystical Exalted Nigh-invincible Supreme Raging Atomic Dragon Turbo Chief Senior Advocate, Rank 8
Posted 2015-09-06 05:00
Do the native Linux games work well?
John Kehr
Posted 2015-09-06 05:10
I haven't checked them all, but they all seem fine.  I gave supertuxKart a spin and smooth as silk, pushing it as hard as I can.
Silviu Cojocaru
Silviu Cojocaru Omniscient Mystical Exalted Nigh-invincible Supreme Raging Atomic Dragon Turbo Chief Senior Advocate, Rank 8
Posted 2015-09-06 07:17
Do you recall if Cinnamon was updated? But then, why would it affect only games which run on Wine...

Do you have any 32bit native game which you can test? For example, the Linux version of Terraria is 32bit. Borderlands 2 and Borderlands The Pre-Sequel also 32bit.
John Kehr
Posted 2015-09-06 12:32
Sorry, had to sleep a bit.

I don't believe that Cinnamon was updated, it is still 17.1.  I am using Gnome 3.9.90, but yes, native games and overall system performance are fine.  I have played Portal and Half-Life 2 at max settings with no problem at all.  Those run through the Linux Steam though, so they don't use CrossOver, at least directly.  As far as I can tell, it is only games that use CrossOver that are having the problem, and since Blizzard games are the only ones installed through CrossOver.....
Stefan Dösinger
Stefan Dösinger  Staff Member
Posted 2015-09-07 07:14
Sorry, I don't have any quick fix to offer.

When you run "top" in a terminal window, is there a considerable amount of CPU time spent in the Linux kernel (the "sy" part in line 3). Does direct rendering still work? It may be broken for 32 bit applications. It's also possible that your system switched from the binary GPU driver to the open source one. That shouldn't hurt much on AMD cards, but on the Nvidia side nouveau is no match for the nvidia binary blob.

Supertuxcard and unfortunately most native Linux games out there are very, very simple compared to WoW and other Windows games. The Unigine-based benchmarks do state of the art rendering though.
John Kehr
Posted 2015-09-07 15:20
I have an update, after I tested other games using Steam, the problem went away.  I could not get it to work, but then I played games with Steam and now everything is working fine.  I have no idea.....  No reboot, no GUI reset, just using Steam.
Stefan Dösinger
Stefan Dösinger  Staff Member
Posted 2015-09-24 07:48
Weird. But if it works I'm happy 😊

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