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macOS Catalina
AL
AL Advocate
Posted 2019-07-27 17:28
installations on macOS Catalina doesn't seem to work
Liviu Tanase
Liviu Tanase
Posted 2019-08-02 16:23
+1
Gordon Stuedler
Gordon Stuedler
Posted 2019-08-08 07:47
+2...is there a timeframe on when Catalina will be supported?
Dashton Peccia
Dashton Peccia Advocate
Posted 2019-08-08 09:21
From this thread:
Hello Yury and Samir, 

We will release an alpha or beta version of CrossOver 19 to macOS testers on the 10.15 beta as soon as such feedback is helpful to our development process. Thank you both for your patience and your willingness to contribute!

Hana


So sounds like when CrossOver 19 releases either late this Fall or early this Winter [Q3 or Q4 2019].
Richard Carr
Richard Carr
Posted 2019-08-12 23:34
When Crossover is 64-bit and works with Catalina, will it still depend on whether the Windows applications are 64-bit? Or will Crossover just make old Windows apps look like they are 64-bit?
Richard Hancock
Richard Hancock
Posted 2019-08-13 12:27
Catalina prevents 32bit applications from running. In order for 32bit apps to run inside of a 64bit container, either the CPU has to switch to 32bit mode (OS Dependent which is what Apple is removing) or all calls must be converted to 64bit and back (a method called trunking I believe).

I believe it's that last part they've been working with Wine on to get done since last year.
Geoffrey Zimmer
Geoffrey Zimmer
Posted 2019-08-20 02:53
We're testing Apple's newest release of macOS Catalina 10.15 Beta 6 as of yesterday.  Now that the end of August is fast approaching, with the final release of Catalina just around the corner, it would be much appreciated if Codeweavers could provide us with a CrossOver 19.0 Beta version to allow us sufficient time to provide feedback to their developers.

In the meantime, we've begun testing with Parallels Desktop 15.0, which has already been released for macOS Catalina.  But CrossOver would be our preferred solution if available.

Thank you!
Geoffrey Zimmer
Geoffrey Zimmer
Posted 2019-09-10 02:16
Sadly, the GM Version of macOS Catalina is expected today following the iPhone event, without any feedback from CrossOver as to the status of V19.0's Beta release.  

I fear we'll be forced to make the switch to Parallels Desktop or refrain from upgrading to macOS Catalina altogether for want of 64-bit support from CrossOver.
John Williams
John Williams
Posted 2019-09-10 02:25
Hello,

I am already using Parallels 15 with Mojave, and the bad news is that if you move to Catalina, yes Parallels 15 will work but if you have 32 bit windows apps, as i do then they will still not work on a Windows VM within Catalina, and you cannot nest Vm's within OSX that is only possible within Windows ????!!!!! what a mess we are in.....

Well this is what i am being told.

JohnW
John Williams
John Williams
Posted 2019-09-10 10:21
UPdate.

OK All change, in brief Parallels V15 operating on Catalina, with a Windows Guest VM WILL allow 32 bit apps to work, i have written confirmation from them earlier.

JohnW
Ryan Abhiram
Ryan Abhiram  Staff Member
Posted 2019-09-10 14:15
Crossover is not a VM and Wine is abit more involved when it comes to a task building a version of crossover to run 32-bit code within a 64-bit process. Codeweavers will be releasing a statement via a blogpost in detail explaining where we are with 32-bit support on Catalina and what to expect. Yes, the current version of crossover 18.5 will not work on Catalina in terms of running 32-bit applications. However, the blog will provide answer's to the majority of your questions and concerns before the October release of this MacOS.
You can look for the blog post here when it is available : https://www.codeweavers.com/about/blogs
Francisco Madeira
Francisco Madeira Senior Advocate
Posted 2019-09-10 15:48
Thank you for an honest and full update 👍
John Wallace
John Wallace
Posted 2019-09-10 20:39
Yes, the blog post was very helpful -- thank you!
Geoffrey Zimmer
Geoffrey Zimmer
Posted 2019-10-07 12:13
macOS Catalina has just been released.
Frank  Stuart
Frank Stuart
Posted 2019-10-07 12:53
Now what do we do ? Just wait ?
Frank  Stuart
Frank Stuart
Posted 2019-10-07 14:33
I only use Quicken for Windows. Any chance to get it working sooner ? Thanks
Ryan Abhiram
Ryan Abhiram  Staff Member
Posted 2019-10-08 08:04
Frank,

What version of Quicken are you referring to that is not working?
Frank  Stuart
Frank Stuart
Posted 2019-10-08 08:11
R22.12 Build 27.1.11.12
Ryan Abhiram
Ryan Abhiram  Staff Member
Posted 2019-10-08 08:33
Frank,

Please submit a support ticket here outlining the issue you are having : https://www.codeweavers.com/about/contact-us#support
That build of Quicken works fine in crossover 18.5 despite an aesthetic issue with the menu.

Frank  Stuart
Frank Stuart
Posted 2019-10-08 08:39
It is working fine in 18.5. This feed is for Catalina. Get it working ASAP for Catalina !
Thanks
Ryan Abhiram
Ryan Abhiram  Staff Member
Posted 2019-10-08 08:58
Frank,

We are working on it, we do ask and appreciate your patience with this matter.
Sumpter Carter
Sumpter Carter
Posted 2019-10-09 21:27
Thanks for your hard work, guys. Waiting is never fun, but we know you're working as fast as you can.
Richard Houston
Richard Houston
Posted 2019-10-09 23:35
Cannot wait for the upgrade - please finish as soon as u can....
Bryan Handfield
Bryan Handfield
Posted 2019-10-10 19:11
Hi AL,

CrossOver installs just fine but seems to have issues with installing stuff into bottles, it dies then and there.

I hope that helps :)
Caleb McDaniels
Caleb McDaniels Advocate
Posted 2019-10-11 00:31
Hopefully, there will be a way to install 10.15 in a VM as a guest with 10.14 being the host. This will help with testing any program in a crossover bottle and just in general to see how things respond. I really don't want to  update my host OS from 10.14 to 15. I have ALOT of 32 bit apps that I use, many of them in crossover. They are mainly old games that I enjoy playing.

In my opinion I find it crazy that apple removed all of the 32 bit architecture systems. Apple in 10.15 has just destroyed any legacy support and apps that some people may rely on. Just look at this crossover issue. I do look forward to seeing how this is going to work out, It will be an adventure for sure.
Boris
Boris
Posted 2019-10-11 07:47
I updated to Catalina, and heidisql not work, ¿ when release crossover 19 ?
MichaelR
MichaelR
Posted 2019-10-11 11:28
Boris Posted:
I updated to Catalina, and heidisql not work, ¿ when release crossover 19 ?

Maybe you should have checked before upgrading to Catalina; it's not like the elimination of 32-bit support in Catalina has been a secret.  Crossover will upgrade when they are able.  Everyone needs to chill.  Constantly asking "where is the Catalina upgrade for Crossover"  is not going to speed anything along.
Eveline
Eveline Omniscient Mystical Exalted Nigh-invincible Supreme Raging Atomic Dragon Turbo Chief Senior Advocate, Rank 3
Posted 2019-10-11 13:45
MichaelR Posted:
Boris Posted:
I updated to Catalina, and heidisql not work, ¿ when release crossover 19 ?

Maybe you should have checked before upgrading to Catalina; it's not like the elimination of 32-bit support in Catalina has been a secret.  Crossover will upgrade when they are able.  Everyone needs to chill.  Constantly asking "where is the Catalina upgrade for Crossover"  is not going to speed anything along.

I'd like to second this message and I'd like to add that there is nothing that forces people to upgrade to a new OS on day 1 when there are still many programs (aside from CrossOver) that won't work.
kevin krieser
kevin krieser
Posted 2019-10-11 18:39
I myself use Crossover for Quicken.  I have the alternative of running it in Windows in a VM on my laptop, and I've done this in the past.  And could do it for a couple months if I decide to upgrade my OS sooner rather than later.

I continue to renew Crossover since the hit on my battery life is less when I run via Crossover than in the high overhead of a Windows OS in a VM.
Bryan Handfield
Bryan Handfield
Posted 2019-10-12 09:57
kevin krieser Posted:
I myself use Crossover for Quicken.  I have the alternative of running it in Windows in a VM on my laptop, and I've done this in the past.  And could do it for a couple months if I decide to upgrade my OS sooner rather than later.

I continue to renew Crossover since the hit on my battery life is less when I run via Crossover than in the high overhead of a Windows OS in a VM.


Have you tried quicken for Mac?  I currently use this for my financials as well and it does the job quite nicely
E. Davis
E. Davis
Posted 2019-10-12 11:04
Adding my support for the Codeweavers CrossOver team! I use CrossOver primarily for QuickLOAD and some other ballistics and shooting sports software (like OnTarget). I have _not_ upgraded to Catalina, and I don’t see why I would at present. I’m able to be patient and give Codeweavers time to do a good job with this major project.
kevin krieser
kevin krieser
Posted 2019-10-12 11:51
[quote=466470]kevin krieser Posted:

Have you tried quicken for Mac?  I currently use this for my financials as well and it does the job quite nicely


Yes.  Last time I tried it it was still missing some features I used.  I may try it again at some point.
Thomas Jackson
Thomas Jackson
Posted 2019-10-13 13:38
E. Davis Posted:
Adding my support for the Codeweavers CrossOver team! I use CrossOver primarily for QuickLOAD and some other ballistics and shooting sports software (like OnTarget). I have _not_ upgraded to Catalina, and I don’t see why I would at present. I’m able to be patient and give Codeweavers time to do a good job with this major project.



Quickload is the reason I have crossover, I use it almost daily, unfortunately I did upgrade, I hope they update Crossover soon but your right its better that its done properly.

Ambimom
Ambimom
Posted 2019-10-14 10:05
I am waiting to upgrade to Catalina until Crossover is ready, and from what I've been reading, waiting is probably a good thing.  There are a few bugs in the Catalina installation.  It hangs on some systems.

So thank you CodeWeavers, you probably saved me a nervous breakdown if my computer were one of the ones that might hang.  By the time you get the 64bit compatibility kinks worked out, there'll be a newer installation of Catalina that doesn't hang.
Jose L Urena
Jose L Urena
Posted 2019-10-15 03:52
I tried Quicken for Mac, and it was a disaster.  It has several critical shortcomings that make it unusable for me.  Not only in feature support, but in the Quicken for Windows database import tool, caused by the feature set differences.  I won't expand here, because there are many threads on the Quicken site on this subject.  But it was a complete disaster.  It seems to me that QM is still years away from reaching QW functionality.
Thomas Jackson
Thomas Jackson
Posted 2019-10-15 05:58
Hi

Is there any word on when the Crossover update might be released ?
Mervyn Ashby
Mervyn Ashby
Posted 2019-10-15 14:37
Sumpter Carter
Sumpter Carter
Posted 2019-10-16 00:39
The World of Tanks wrapper (from CodeWeavers) got an update with 64-bit compatibility, so we should see something soon, for general use.
Ian Sliwinski
Ian Sliwinski
Posted 2019-10-16 10:19
Sumpter Carter Posted:
The World of Tanks wrapper (from CodeWeavers) got an update with 64-bit compatibility, so we should see something soon, for general use.


The macOS Catalina compatibility update for the WG Game Center Mac Wrapper dropped yesterday.   Users are presented with an update dialog box.  Upon updating macOS Catalina users are now able to download and run the WoT Mac Wrapper.


Joel Loewenstein
Joel Loewenstein Advocate
Posted 2019-10-17 17:01
+1 did revert for now. will follow up on the thread
Vladimir
Vladimir
Posted 2019-10-18 02:59
32-bit mode can still be enabled on catalina
sudo nvram boot-args="no32exec=0"

But the amount of available 32-bit libraries is very limited, most of them could be used from mojave.
Richard Houston
Richard Houston
Posted 2019-10-23 01:34
Any new updates?
Adam Twardoch
Adam Twardoch
Posted 2019-10-27 19:40
It seems that Apple has not completely removed the ability to run 32-bit code in macOS Catalina.

Yes, Catalina no longer ships the 32-bit frameworks or libraries, but when I boot my macOS Catalina in Recovery mode (holding Cmd+R on boot), and then chose Utilities > Terminal, and there I type:

nvram boot-args=”no32exec=0″

and reboot, I then am able to run i386 commandline apps.

I think it would be acceptable for many CrossOver users if Codeweavers initially deploys a solution that relies on this modification. I guess it’ll still be a bit complicated to do, but surely less complicated.
Richard Houston
Richard Houston
Posted 2019-10-28 19:01
Is there anyone here who could give an estimate of when crossover will provide an update?

Please someone?
Anna Lasky
Anna Lasky  Staff Member
Posted 2019-10-29 08:21
Hi,

We just published a blog post update here.   We also have a mailing list specifically for "macOS Catalina Updates" (under Events) that you can subscribe to here so that you don't miss the latest updates on our progress.

We also have two prior blog posts which detail our progress and the challenges involved here: first postsecond post.

Thank you for your patience!
Anna
Richard Houston
Richard Houston
Posted 2019-10-29 19:35
Thanks for the update and link to sub etc
Mike Norman
Mike Norman
Posted 2019-10-30 17:01
Thanks Anna.

Those blog updates on macOS Catalina compatibility are awesome.

The thunking of 32-bit code to run on 64-bit is not an easy task, thanks to everyone involved!
A related question though... will DirectX 11 be available via MoltenVK in the upcoming update?

--mike
Geoffrey Zimmer
Geoffrey Zimmer
Posted 2019-10-31 02:37
While we're all waiting in anticipation for CrossOver 19, I was just wondering if anyone can tell us whether or not we'll be able to import our Bottle archives directly with Catalina, or will we need to reinstall everything from scratch?  Since most of my Windows games have been modified, updated and tweaked over the years it would be extremely time consuming to have to install them all over again.  

Again, thanks to everyone at Codeweavers for your efforts!

Cheers
Anna Lasky
Anna Lasky  Staff Member
Posted 2019-10-31 08:42
Mike -- Thank you :)  We are planning on having DirectX 11 via MoltenVK supported in the future, but I don't have a good timeline to give you.  Right now everyone is heads down on Catalina support as you might imagine :)

Geoffrey -- We are hoping that most Bottles will be upgraded seamlessly to CrossOver 19 + Catalina.  As you probably could guess, we won't be able to test every single application bottle upgrade before release.  It sounds like you already have your bottles archived -- I would suggest, just to be safe, to have them backed up.  If there is an issue on your first import attempt, please let us know!  We hope to be able to fix issues like that, so the final result should be that all of your existing bottles will be able to be imported.

Thanks,
Anna
Richard Houston
Richard Houston
Posted 2019-11-10 17:43
Any more updates as been a while now??

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