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Has anyone tried using Visio 2003 with Crossover ?
I have found that Crossover has a major problem which effectively makes it useless for Visio.

If I draw a large rectangle on the page - say covering 2/3 of the page size, selecting the object takes many seconds. Actually you can see the green line slowly and progressively draw round the perimeter of the object over several seconds, and only when it has completed can you then move the object. Smaller objects can be selected much more quickly. This makes it totally useless.

This doesn't happen when Visio is run under Windows. I am using a 3GHz C2D iMac and Snow Leopard.

Has anyone else noticed this bug, and is there anything that can be done about it ?

Regards,
Chris.

I have not used 2003 w/ Snow Leopard, but use Visio 2007 almost every day. I just performed the test you mention without any issue. 2007 has a few quirks (such as drawing previews do not show on my machine), but none that make me boot windows.

My machine is a MBP 2.9ghz Unibody w/ 4GB of RAM running Snow Leopard.

-Alan

Alan,

I have now tried Visio 2007 too.

Repeating the large rectangle test, it is now possible to select the object pretty much instantly. However, moving the selected rectangle around the screen is extremely slow. It's still not really usable.

Chris.

I just tested the rectangle test again, this time on a large page (96"x36"), which was completely filled with objects and diagram components (the drawing itself is about 2.5MB w/ no background or other large graphics other than rectangles to designate areas).

Only if I made the rectangle over about 80% the size of the page as there any delay, and even then the delay for moving the rectangle was perhaps 2 seconds at the max, and it "snapped" between locations, you couldn't see the lines drawing or anything. In other tests, if I grabbed a 50+ small objects on the page and moved them, they move almost instantly, in both cases it's about the same performance I would expect on my PC.

Interesting that we are seeing such a different performance, especially since we are both running C2D's and mine is a 2.9ghz vs. your 3ghz. There are other factors, such as the RAM/FSB speed and video card, and perhaps OS sub-version.

Here are some notes about my configuration:
My Visio bottle is a WinXP bottle, graphics settings are default in WineCFG (Allow the window manager to decorate/control the windows is checked, and vertex shader is set to hardware and pixel shader box are checked).

My Mac:
I'm running Snow Leopard 10.6.2, 4GB RAM, 2.9Ghz C2D, and right now I'm running on my high powered video card (9600GT), now that I think about it I can switch to my other video card (9400M) and perform the test again to see if it's video card speed related. I'll do that and post a update.

I just tested using my 9400M video card and the graphics performance was no less. I just drew a massive rectangle, about 1 1/2 times the size of the 96x36" working area and drug it around several times and it is still performing well. It takes 1-2 seconds for it to move being that large, but it's not slow in the way you described, it's still pretty snappy when it moves. I also grabbed a rectangle w/ gradients and tried it with that, and that had the same result. With smaller objects, even big batches (150+ of them) of them movement of objects is almost instant.

I wonder what the other factors we need to consider are, what generation of iMac do you have? perhaps there is some architecture or driver/software running difference in the machine that could contribute to the issue. Also, what size of document are you working in? I've been testing a a fully-loaded 96x36", but if you are working on even larger diagrams it could make a difference.

Hi Alan,

My iMac is pretty much the same spec as your MBP:
Latest 21.5" screen model, 3.06GHz C2D, 4GB RAM, 500GB HDD, 9400 graphics.
I'm running Snow Leopard 10.6.2
The Crossover settings are exactly as you describe.

My drawing setup was slightly different however:
I have an overall sheet size of two A4 sheets side by side, drawing scale is 1:1, and print scaling is 100%.

I then drew a rectangle 160x100mm and zoomed in so it almost filled the Visio window. The rectangle can be selected quickly, but there are several seconds delay when you attempt to drag it anywhere. It doesn't seem to matter if there are any other smaller objects present or not.

I used to have Visio 2000 installed using a Win98 bottle, and that didn't exhibit this strange effect.

Regards,
Chris.

tried visio 2003 and 2007 under cxo 8.x...both were unbelievably slow. trashed 'em both shortly after testing.

plus, isn't visio 2007 really just a rebranded 2003...? i mean, microsoft didn't do anything to it did they...? didn't even get the goofy ribbon gui.

JPP_Zoso wrote:

tried visio 2003 and 2007 under cxo 8.x...both were unbelievably
slow. trashed 'em both shortly after testing.

Just thought I would try the latest version of Crossover (9.0.1) to see if things have improved ?
And they have, big time ! Visio 2003 and 2007 now run very fast. You can drag large and/or complex objects around the screen as fast as you like.

Great work Codeweavers !

Chris.